[20Jul24] Cyraxx uncle DBD has a talk with Sally Arntzen

[0:00 - 0:02] ...Hey, how you doing?
[0:02 - 0:04] Um, better now, I got something in my tummy.
[0:04 - 0:06] *laughs*
[0:06 - 0:26] Alright, um, things have been a little crazy on the past few days, I guess. Um, I don't know, like I said, I think this will offer people, um, you know, insight into you guys, and I don't know, hopefully something can come of this, but...
[0:26 - 0:44] Are you aware of, I think in the past week alone, um, six times I can count that Chance has been flashing on stream, you know, um, I mean you are aware he's, he's like, he's doing this a lot now, right?
[0:44 - 0:48] I don't, I don't go up there in his room so I don't know.
[0:48 - 0:58] Yeah, he's, uh, he's doing it, I know a lot of times he tries to tell you that, uh, you know, people are faking things against him, you know, that...
[0:58 - 1:17] I've sent you AI videos, I do, and commentary videos where I'm kinda poking fun at him is not the same thing as, you know, him doing things live, you know, on camera, you know, in front of thousands of people, it's like, it's kinda hard to deny that, but some way he finds a way, um...
[1:17 - 1:34] You know, like, we're not making these things up, you know, we want you to be aware of that, you know, like, we're not just picking on him for no reason, it's not targeting him to stop his career, it's nothing like that, you know, he's been caught multiple times, um...
[1:34 - 2:03] I mean, you obviously know, you know, uh, I mean, this year alone he's been caught twice talking to someone that he thought was, you know, an underage person, and, I mean, obviously people feel a certain way about that, you know, and that's why he gets so much slack, and, you know, people aren't randomly making this up, I promise you this, you know, I give you my word that these aren't things that are just coming out of the air, like, he's, he's definitely being caught doing things, so...
[2:03 - 2:05] But you know why he does it?
[2:05 - 2:07] I mean...
[2:07 - 2:09] You know why he does it?
[2:09 - 2:11] I have no idea.
[2:11 - 2:27] Because he's being harassed, and all kinds of stuff on there, he's just being harassed so bad, his anger gets too boiling, and that's when he strikes out.
[2:27 - 2:31] That's when he strikes out.
[2:31 - 2:56] And that's, that's like, that's the problem, is his anger, you know, like, just as easily as he thinks these people are attacking him, he has the option to not show up on these panels, not respond to people, not, you know what I mean, it's, as much as these people are doing things, like, he could really just ignore it, and it's really that simple, he feeds into it, you know, it's almost like he has an addiction to this, or, there's something about it that draws him back in,
[2:56 - 3:02] and he can't stop, you know, and I know you see it firsthand, so it's...
[3:02 - 3:05] Well, I don't see it firsthand, but I hear it firsthand.
[3:05 - 3:07] Yeah, yeah.
[3:07 - 3:13] And I mean, that's the thing, like, you mean, you hear what he's up there screaming, you know, like...
[3:13 - 3:16] Which hasn't been very much lately.
[3:16 - 3:45] I see, I can show you, you know, channels he's been on in the past couple days, you know, some of his favorite phrases, I mean, obviously you hear "nigger boy," his new favorite things are "Hook-Nosed Kike Jew," you know, he's saying very hateful things, and you might not be able to hear it, you know, the last few days, but I promise you, I can show you at least a few hours of footage of him, you know, doing this.
[3:45 - 3:48] And that's why he's getting this.
[3:48 - 3:54] I understand you guys believe he's being harassed, but at the same time, he doesn't have to feed into it.
[3:54 - 4:00] It's his choice to feed into it, that's, you know...
[4:00 - 4:03] I understand what you're saying.
[4:03 - 4:08] And I don't think that... I don't know.
[4:08 - 4:23] I don't think you guys should be catching so much shit, you know, but I think also Chance is aware that some of the things he does could put him as a target, and he continues to do it, and has no care, and it's like he screams "my family, my family, my family," but...
[4:23 - 4:27] I mean, he's the one putting you guys in this position, you know, like he...
[4:27 - 4:32] I just told him I had a little while ago.
[4:32 - 4:38] He says it's not his fault.
[4:38 - 4:45] I mean, I understand. It's like an ebb and flow, you know, one... they're poking each other, you know, and it's...
[4:45 - 4:59] Someone has to stop, you know, because, I don't know, it's... I don't think you guys realize the scope of how many people are really in tune to this, and how many people are paying attention and involved now.
[4:59 - 5:10] Well, we're moving out, which means we won't have any wifi.
[5:10 - 5:32] Yeah, we've called him, I mean, you know, it's...
[5:32 - 5:44] I know Chance has issues, I mean, it's obvious, but I think he uses that as a crutch to get sympathy and empathy off of people, and...
[5:44 - 5:52] Yeah, he's been caught a lot with stealing people's art. It's not only just the music, it's art.
[5:52 - 6:09] It's his proclivity to, you know, message underage girls, and not even just that, it's just any girl that talks to him, it's almost like if they show him any kind of positive attention trying to be nice to him, instant dick pic, you know, it's...
[6:09 - 6:26] It's a lot of things that draw people to him, you know, it's not just these one or two things, there's a lot of facets to this.
[6:26 - 6:32] I don't know what to say, but where we go.
[6:32 - 6:41] I see Chance's side of it, and I understand the other side of it. Nothing I can do.
[6:41 - 6:46] I mean, he said it's gonna have to come to you guys having to move out, and you know, like, that's...
[6:46 - 6:50] He would never make it up, you'd be out on the streets.
[6:50 - 6:52] Oh yeah, yeah, I know.
[6:52 - 6:56] He'd never make it, I'm sorry, he would not make it.
[6:56 - 7:03] I know. I don't know, he's not... I think deep down, he'll never admit it, but I think he knows too, you know what I mean?
[7:03 - 7:08] He knows that he doesn't have the wherewithal to survive on his own, so...
[7:08 - 7:15] But he's not gonna admit it, you know, his pride's too strong, so...
[7:15 - 7:27] 'Cause I know with you guys, you were getting a pretty good deal with the rent there, you know, and Karen's a friend of yours, so it's better to have someone that you know as a landlord, so it's kind of sad that it has to come to that, but...
[7:27 - 7:35] Oh, she's made a reference that she wants to sell the house, so...
[7:35 - 7:40] If that's what you want, then we'll move out, and that'll solve the problem here.
[7:40 - 7:47] But then you know no matter where you go, Chance is gonna find a way to get online, and he's going to find a way to get online.
[7:47 - 8:01] Like, when you took the internet out of your house, someone gave him their Spectrum, the wifi password login, so he was able to just continue on, and you know, you disconnected all your stuff, and it's...
[8:01 - 8:09] I don't know, from my position, I could never put my family in a situation like that, and...
[8:09 - 8:10] I don't know.
[8:10 - 8:14] He just doesn't understand, and...
[8:14 - 8:20] He understands, it's just he doesn't care, and it's sad, you know, it's...
[8:20 - 8:24] I don't know.
[8:24 - 8:27] I mean, even with your daughter, right, like...
[8:27 - 8:29] I never would have spoke to your daughter...
[8:29 - 8:32] No, no, no, don't real bring her into this at all.
[8:32 - 8:34] I'm the one who talked to her before.
[8:34 - 8:36] I know.
[8:36 - 8:39] Like, I was just, no, no, I was just gonna let you know that like, when I...
[8:39 - 8:47] When I spoke to her, I never would have even tried reaching out to her, had it not been for Chance, bringing her to the internet.
[8:47 - 8:59] Chance is the one who came on immediately after the argument, they got into, came on talking about it, how he's disowning her and stuff, which led me to question, well, what's going on, you know, there has to be more to it, and...
[8:59 - 9:07] You know, and I reached out to her and we spoke, and, you know, it turns out that, you know, it found out a lot, there was a lot more to it, but...
[9:07 - 9:11] But a lot of it was untrue.
[9:11 - 9:16] I heard the interview.
[9:16 - 9:18] Yeah.
[9:18 - 9:23] Well, then, you know, and two, you know, she never said anything bad about you, and she never once said anything that...
[9:23 - 9:30] She said, I remember one, her biggest quote was, you know, I, like, what was it?
[9:30 - 9:32] Oh, shit, shit.
[9:32 - 9:45] It's something, you know, but I love my mother so much, you know, my mother's beloved to me, like, you know, like, she never once said anything negative about you, but then Chance runs to you because, you know, she was honestly just telling the truth about things.
[9:45 - 9:51] Chance was never in a band with David Stone King, you know, he got really upset about that, but he was never in a band with David Stone.
[9:51 - 10:09] He never, you know, David gave him some drumsticks and, you know, he goes around and lies now because David isn't here to say that, you know, he wasn't, you know, she wasn't lying about that, you know, she wasn't lying about the way he acts in the house and, you know, it's like...
[10:09 - 10:23] That's the problem is, he needs to be held accountable, like, he needs to learn that there's repercussions for your actions, and I think that's why he just does all this to you, to himself, because he doesn't have to face anything.
[10:23 - 10:35] He knows that you're older, you're weaker, you and Ed really aren't gonna physically fend him off, so all he has to do is just do what he wants and you guys can't stop him, and that's not fair to you.
[10:35 - 10:42] He has not hit me one time since the one, the Valentine's Day we spoke about.
[10:42 - 10:44] In 2012, right?
[10:44 - 10:47] Yeah, he has never hit me since.
[10:47 - 11:02] But there's times that he's recording in his room and we hear him and we've seen him get in your face before, you know, literally, like, up in your face screaming, yelling, like, you're his grandmother, you adopted him, as you took him in as a son.
[11:02 - 11:08] You don't treat your grandmother like that. You don't treat your mother like that. Like, you know, I...
[11:26 - 11:36] Like, with, okay, with the... when he was in high school and got expelled for the thing with the blind kid, no one would have ever known about that.
[11:36 - 11:39] He even got expelled.
[11:39 - 11:50] So what was it? Because he says he got expelled, and then one day he'll say he got expelled, and next he left, or he got kicked out to protect him or whatever, so what was it?
[11:50 - 11:54] He spent the night over at Billy's house.
[11:55 - 12:00] And then Billy accused him of...
[12:00 - 12:02] Yeah, I know, yeah.
[12:02 - 12:07] He accused him of the school, and they checked into it, and they found it.
[12:07 - 12:13] That'd be true, and so the case was closed.
[12:17 - 12:27] But, you know, like, Billy did actually tell what's going on, and it did happen, Sally. It did.
[12:27 - 12:31] No, no. I mean, I'm never gonna mention any of that one.
[12:31 - 12:42] I mean, that's... and that's, like, the sad thing, like, this is something that happened to someone, you know what I mean?
[12:42 - 12:50] Chance can deny it or whatever, but when you put both of their stories, you gotta realize they're three sides to every story, right? His, his, and the truth.
[12:50 - 13:04] So you put both of their stories together in the middle, Chance is still, you know, because when Chance tells his story, he's not a good liar, so he actually ends up telling on himself sometimes by the way he tells things.
[13:04 - 13:13] And he's admitted to it. He's even, he's came out out of his mouth, Sally, and said that, you know, now he changed from it never happened to what we were just experimenting.
[13:13 - 13:16] So he's admitted to it. He's admitted to it.
[13:16 - 13:20] You know, he just...
[13:20 - 13:22] Hold on a second. What?
[13:22 - 13:31] Ed wants to know how Marty found out that he talked to you.
[13:33 - 13:37] I don't talk to Marty. I have no communication with him.
[13:37 - 13:45] Yeah, I'm not affiliated with Marty.
[13:45 - 13:48] You know, I don't know.
[13:48 - 13:55] I don't know. I mean, Marty's Marty. He does his own thing and, you know, like, he... I don't know.
[13:57 - 14:04] Many people... many...
[14:04 - 14:11] I don't think they're really out there, Sally. I don't think, you know what I mean? Like, I don't...
[14:11 - 14:24] Right, because he had, there's people, there's, you realize there's people that live around there, they'll send videos to other people and they could just pretend, you know what I mean?
[14:25 - 14:27] Okay, what about the red paint on our roof?
[14:27 - 14:30] See, I don't see... Right.
[14:30 - 14:36] A drone. Yeah, a drone. I don't know anything about that. You know, I'm not...
[14:36 - 14:42] You know, I watch these things unfold sometimes as they're happening. You know what I mean?
[14:42 - 14:49] Like I said, I'm not... I don't know Marty, you know, so I don't know anything that he plans or I don't know if he's involved. I don't know if he's not, you know.
[14:50 - 15:01] A lot of times, to be honest with you, Marty isn't even involved. It's people doing things on their own and, you know, like, it's just easier, the chance is always gonna assume it's just Marty, you know?
[15:01 - 15:08] But there's a lot of times people are just out there doing things on their own and it's not necessarily him.
[15:15 - 15:18] Well, again, like I said, I don't know what to say.
[15:18 - 15:23] I'm just over it.
[15:23 - 15:29] We'll move on. He won't be on the internet.
[15:29 - 15:34] He's not even gonna take this seriously, I don't think.
[15:34 - 15:42] I mean, that's really the only way it's ever gonna stop, is taking his devices, because he's not gonna stop unless, you know...
[15:43 - 15:48] He's 34 years old and I can't take this with devices. I can get in trouble for that.
[15:48 - 15:54] No, it's sadly you can't. You own that house. You own that house. He's under your roof.
[15:54 - 16:08] He doesn't contribute to the bills. You pay all the bills, you and Ed, you know, Ed works, you know, you got your means and you guys come together to make sure that he has a roof over his head, he has clothes on his back and food in his mouth.
[16:09 - 16:12] Whatever you say should be law. There should be no question to that.
[16:12 - 16:19] Like I said earlier, you're his grandmother but you took him in like a son. He should be treating you as such.
[16:19 - 16:27] You're not gonna get in trouble for taking his devices. You have every right to him. You have every right to him.
[16:27 - 16:35] And I believe that if you take him out of his room, I already know your main concern is probably that he's gonna cause hell.
[16:36 - 16:39] He's gonna raise hell and you're gonna have to deal with that but...
[16:39 - 16:41] He's putting up holes in that room.
[16:41 - 16:52] Exactly, but then when he does that, instead of calling the police on people who are making prank phone calls to you, pick up the phone and call the police when he gets crazy with you.
[16:52 - 16:58] Start putting fear in him because he's scared of the police. He'll stop when he comes to them. You see when they show up, he acts right.
[16:58 - 17:04] As much as he sits there when they're not around, big and bad, fuck the police. You know he's scared of them.
[17:05 - 17:10] You know, use it against him. You have rights and you shouldn't have to go through this.
[17:10 - 17:15] And you understand right, right?
[17:15 - 17:18] I mean a hundred and something calls, like...
[17:18 - 17:33] But it's like, okay, and I understand that. I'm in agreement with you that that is their job but at some point, they get to the point where it's like,
[17:34 - 17:40] it's really not our job to stop people from bullying Chance when he's jumping into the pit to get bullied.
[17:40 - 17:46] He's making the choice to go on these panels. He's making the choice to continue screaming racial slurs.
[17:46 - 17:50] He's making the choice to pull his penis out, you know, in front of thousands of people.
[17:50 - 17:55] So with him making those choices, like, they see this too now.
[17:55 - 18:03] Like people are sending, you know, the police clips now of him flashing and they're trying, they're really trying to build a case against him right now.
[18:04 - 18:10] I mean, and he sits there and says that he says he's untouchable.
[18:10 - 18:16] He says it. He says I'm untouchable. Like he believes it because he doesn't face any consequences.
[18:16 - 18:24] Well, I think I've heard of this.
[18:24 - 18:30] I'm not bad enough in you. I'm tired of hearing it.
[18:31 - 18:33] I just say goodbye.
[18:33 - 18:34] Goodbye.
[18:35 - 18:50] Bye-bye.