Cyrax Talks To Siznac 2021-9-23

[0:00 - 0:05] Oh. Yo, hold up. We got Ciznak coming here, guys. Hold on.
[0:05 - 0:10] I'm gonna ban that guy.
[0:10 - 0:12] Make sure it's actually him.
[0:12 - 0:18] What's up, Cyrax?
[0:18 - 0:20] Hey, how you doing, man? What's good?
[0:20 - 0:25] Nothing, so I think you got some questions that you need answers to.
[0:25 - 0:30] Yeah, like, and honestly, the main one, dude, is just
[0:30 - 0:36] how is it that, well, one, how is it that you guys found me?
[0:36 - 0:42] And two and three are why is it that y'all did what you did to me?
[0:42 - 0:46] And what made you guys want to do that ultimately?
[0:46 - 0:49] Courtney paid us all to do it.
[0:49 - 0:51] Courtney paid us all to do it.
[0:51 - 0:54] Like, who paid you to do it?
[0:54 - 0:58] Courtney. She gave me five grand to do it.
[0:58 - 1:01] And she gave all the rest of the Bender Boys five grand each.
[1:01 - 1:05] Ciznak, listen, bro, you and I both know that,
[1:05 - 1:08] and I'm not holding anything over your head.
[1:08 - 1:10] I'm not, you know, hating on you,
[1:10 - 1:13] but you and I both know that I know you well enough
[1:13 - 1:16] that I can tell when you're lying through your teeth,
[1:16 - 1:19] and right now you're not being straight up with me.
[1:19 - 1:21] What was the real reason?
[1:21 - 1:23] And don't sit there and say it's only a tager.
[1:23 - 1:26] I want an honest answer. No bullshit.
[1:26 - 1:29] How we found you?
[1:29 - 1:34] I'm pretty sure it was through Blue
[1:34 - 1:38] when he brought you up about the whole Candle Smith thing.
[1:38 - 1:42] And then we found out you were a rapper.
[1:42 - 1:49] So then Max and CPN in the juggernaut,
[1:49 - 1:52] he wanted to get you signed.
[1:52 - 2:00] And so Max had me and George,
[2:00 - 2:04] and I don't even remember who else, a couple of us,
[2:04 - 2:09] hook up with Mew so that we could let you know
[2:09 - 2:11] that Max was a good guy
[2:11 - 2:14] and you can record your Weirdo and Mars album
[2:14 - 2:16] or whatever it was, right?
[2:16 - 2:21] Yeah, but what I want to know...
[2:21 - 2:25] Oh, yeah, because at that time, too,
[2:25 - 2:30] Marty was making big money off of the glory holes,
[2:30 - 2:33] off of the merchandise, off of you.
[2:33 - 2:36] Which I still don't see how the hell he could have...
[2:36 - 2:38] I mean, I see how he could have done it.
[2:38 - 2:41] I just don't understand why, quite frankly.
[2:41 - 2:44] I would not care to know, Marty, just saying.
[2:44 - 2:48] Max and CPN saw the money
[2:48 - 2:53] that Marty was making off of you on merchandise alone.
[2:53 - 2:56] So that's when Max wanted to get you signed
[2:56 - 2:59] to Juggernaut Records,
[2:59 - 3:03] had us start hooking up with you.
[3:03 - 3:07] But then why was it that, like, ultimately,
[3:07 - 3:10] why was it that you guys pulled that fake contract?
[3:10 - 3:14] Well, it wasn't fake. That was a real contract.
[3:14 - 3:19] And the Bender Boys saw how much money
[3:19 - 3:21] they could make off of you,
[3:21 - 3:25] and that's why they stole you from Juggernaut Records.
[3:25 - 3:34] And then I developed a really bad PCP habit,
[3:34 - 3:38] and that's when Marty started offering me money
[3:38 - 3:41] to sell your merchandise.
[3:41 - 3:45] So I was making a shitload of money off of Marty,
[3:45 - 3:50] and he was buying me a lot of PCP to sell your merchandise.
[3:50 - 3:52] And then you turned on us.
[3:52 - 3:55] You just became unmanageable.
[3:55 - 3:59] Well, to be fair, dude, I will admit,
[3:59 - 4:02] I was dealing with a lot of pressure
[4:02 - 4:06] between being trolled, being attacked,
[4:06 - 4:08] and this and that and the other.
[4:08 - 4:10] It got a lot to...
[4:10 - 4:12] It got overwhelming a lot.
[4:12 - 4:17] And like I said, I harbor no hatred towards you or anyone.
[4:17 - 4:21] Like I said, I came on here just to basically get answers
[4:21 - 4:26] and be like, yo, I want to put all this to rest
[4:26 - 4:29] so that I can actually move on with my life
[4:29 - 4:34] so that I actually know what way I can take things.
[4:34 - 4:36] And now that I got those answers, dude,
[4:36 - 4:38] I do appreciate it.
[4:39 - 4:42] How are we even being brought up right now
[4:42 - 4:44] is what I'm curious about.
[4:44 - 4:47] Because of the fact that, you know,
[4:47 - 4:51] I was just genuinely looking for answers
[4:51 - 4:53] because I was actually talking about it
[4:53 - 4:55] with a friend of mine,
[4:55 - 4:57] and they were wondering the same thing.
[4:57 - 5:00] Like how did any of this even start?
[5:00 - 5:03] Like what started all this stuff
[5:03 - 5:05] with the trolling and stuff?
[5:05 - 5:08] And then, you know, I admit that it started with you.
[5:08 - 5:11] Well, it initially first started with Marty
[5:11 - 5:13] before you guys.
[5:13 - 5:16] Like it started with Marty before you guys.
[5:16 - 5:19] He fell off the map after a while.
[5:19 - 5:21] And then, you know, somehow or other,
[5:21 - 5:23] I guess Jamie found me or whatever,
[5:23 - 5:27] and I kind of explained like all of that stuff.
[5:27 - 5:28] And they were like, you know,
[5:28 - 5:31] like you should seriously, you know,
[5:31 - 5:32] try to get some answers
[5:32 - 5:36] and, you know, see what you can find out, you know,
[5:36 - 5:39] and, you know, that way, you know,
[5:39 - 5:43] things can finally, you know, progress forward
[5:43 - 5:47] in, you know, a good way.
[5:47 - 5:50] And honestly, dude, I do appreciate you coming up here
[5:50 - 5:53] and, you know, explaining everything.
[5:53 - 5:56] And now that I know the real truth,
[5:56 - 6:00] Marty, you got some answering to do, man.
[6:00 - 6:02] It wasn't even Marty.
[6:02 - 6:04] It was all the juggernaut.
[6:04 - 6:06] They were the ones.
[6:06 - 6:08] I was talking about Marty with like the whole,
[6:08 - 6:10] you know, glorious thing and all that,
[6:10 - 6:12] like all that stuff.
[6:12 - 6:14] Yeah.
[6:14 - 6:17] But Marty was making tons of money.
[6:17 - 6:19] From what I recall,
[6:19 - 6:23] you still owe me some money from that merchandise.
[6:23 - 6:25] But I let that go.
[6:25 - 6:27] I realized I'm never going to get that money.
[6:27 - 6:28] So I let that go.
[6:28 - 6:30] What I want to know, though, is this,
[6:30 - 6:33] like that actually is a very good point.
[6:33 - 6:36] But something I want to know is how is it
[6:36 - 6:40] that I owe you money when I had no idea about the stuff?
[6:40 - 6:43] I didn't know about that until y'all told me.
[6:43 - 6:45] I was unaware.
[6:45 - 6:50] I know, but when my last check bounced,
[6:50 - 6:54] I was told to bring it up with you.
[6:54 - 6:58] Dude, I'll be honest with you, dude,
[6:58 - 7:01] and this is me being 100 straight up with you, man.
[7:01 - 7:04] I had no idea about anything
[7:04 - 7:07] that Marty was doing at the time
[7:07 - 7:09] until y'all told me.
[7:09 - 7:12] When y'all told me, I straight flipped on him.
[7:12 - 7:14] I was like, what the fuck?
[7:14 - 7:18] Like, what's the, like, why did you,
[7:18 - 7:20] you know, do this?
[7:20 - 7:22] Like, what was the fucking point?
[7:22 - 7:26] Like, I had no idea about this.
[7:26 - 7:28] It was all about money, Cyrus.
[7:28 - 7:31] We all wanted that mighty dollar.
[7:31 - 7:33] Right, and I get that, and I understand.
[7:33 - 7:34] You're a cash cow.
[7:34 - 7:36] Do you not understand that?
[7:36 - 7:39] No, I get that, but I don't understand, like,
[7:39 - 7:41] why, why, why...
[7:41 - 7:45] Whoever gets control of you is rich.
[7:45 - 7:47] By God, they are rich.
[7:47 - 7:49] But that's the thing, though, man.
[7:49 - 7:52] That's what people don't really understand
[7:52 - 7:55] is that I don't want to be controlled.
[7:55 - 7:58] I want to be my own person
[7:58 - 8:01] without people coming in and doing this
[8:01 - 8:03] and doing that and saying this and saying,
[8:03 - 8:05] like, oh, you can do this,
[8:05 - 8:07] but, oh, you can't do that.
[8:07 - 8:09] Like, that's not me, you know?
[8:09 - 8:12] When I first came onto the music scene, dude,
[8:12 - 8:15] I had no intention of being controlled.
[8:15 - 8:18] I just wanted to be able to do my music
[8:18 - 8:21] my own way, on my own, without any,
[8:21 - 8:23] you know, without any bullshit,
[8:23 - 8:25] without anybody trying to, you know,
[8:25 - 8:28] control what I do and don't do
[8:28 - 8:30] and make me look stupid.
[8:30 - 8:32] Like, I'm not about that crap, dude.
[8:32 - 8:34] Like, that's not what I'm about.
[8:34 - 8:36] I think, and I honestly feel like
[8:36 - 8:39] a lot of people, you know,
[8:39 - 8:40] they don't want that.
[8:40 - 8:42] Like, they want to control me,
[8:42 - 8:44] but I'm here to tell you right now,
[8:44 - 8:46] I'm not going to be controlled.
[8:46 - 8:48] I refuse to be controlled.
[8:48 - 8:50] See, that's the thing is,
[8:50 - 8:52] it went to where it did,
[8:52 - 8:54] it went to where it did because
[8:54 - 8:57] we realized if we can't control you
[8:57 - 9:00] and we can't be making that money off of you,
[9:00 - 9:02] then nobody will.
[9:02 - 9:07] And we were, we vowed to destroy you after that.
[9:07 - 9:10] We made sure that we were going to destroy you
[9:10 - 9:13] because nobody was going to make money off of you
[9:13 - 9:16] if we couldn't make that money off of you.
[9:16 - 9:18] Well, I had to say, dude,
[9:18 - 9:20] I'm not saying this to be an asshole.
[9:20 - 9:22] I'm just stating straight facts.
[9:22 - 9:25] You kind of failed at that.
[9:25 - 9:28] You kind of failed at what you did.
[9:28 - 9:30] Where's your career at right now?
[9:30 - 9:32] I'm just stating facts, bro.
[9:32 - 9:34] Where's your career at right now?
[9:34 - 9:38] Honestly, dude, it's going in a very good direction
[9:38 - 9:39] right now for me.
[9:39 - 9:40] It might not be music,
[9:40 - 9:43] but I do have other shit that I am doing
[9:43 - 9:46] that is actually going in a very good direction for me.
[9:46 - 9:49] And I'm here to tell you right now,
[9:49 - 9:52] you're not going to get away in the way of that
[9:52 - 9:54] and neither is anyone else.
[9:54 - 9:56] I'm not going to be controlled.
[9:56 - 9:57] I am my own person.
[9:57 - 10:01] And if you don't like that, then that's your problem.
[10:01 - 10:05] I can't control the way you feel or how you react,
[10:05 - 10:07] but I can control.
[10:07 - 10:10] You signed a contract with us.
[10:10 - 10:11] But that's the thing.
[10:11 - 10:13] After you signed the contract with us,
[10:13 - 10:17] we went ahead and bought houses and stuff,
[10:17 - 10:21] relying on that money that was going to come in from you.
[10:21 - 10:26] Then why is it that when I took one look at that contract,
[10:26 - 10:29] I looked at the contract after I had signed it,
[10:29 - 10:31] and bro, that contract was fake.
[10:31 - 10:33] So don't even play that contract.
[10:33 - 10:34] How was it fake?
[10:34 - 10:36] Tell me how it was fake.
[10:36 - 10:40] Bro, you were offering me fucking money
[10:40 - 10:45] that no fucking label in the right fucking mind would do.
[10:45 - 10:47] Bro, I'm not stupid.
[10:47 - 10:48] Because it's you.
[10:48 - 10:52] You are a musical fucking genius.
[10:52 - 10:54] And I get that.
[10:54 - 10:59] But you need to understand that when it comes down to it,
[10:59 - 11:02] I never wanted to be controlled.
[11:02 - 11:05] And when I tried to tell you all that,
[11:05 - 11:09] you guys felt like you had to do this and do that to destroy me
[11:09 - 11:12] You know, we could have party ways on good terms.
[11:12 - 11:14] If you don't understand what happened,
[11:14 - 11:16] we went out and bought houses.
[11:16 - 11:17] We went and bought cars.
[11:17 - 11:20] We went and had pools put in our backyard
[11:20 - 11:24] because we were actually going to record an album for us.
[11:24 - 11:27] But why should that matter to me?
[11:27 - 11:30] Because you backed out on the contract
[11:30 - 11:34] and we lost all that money.
[11:35 - 11:39] All right, let me ask you this.
[11:39 - 11:46] Why should what you guys do with your lives affect what I do?
[11:46 - 11:53] Because all of that relied on your signature on that contract.
[11:53 - 11:57] All of that relied on you.
[11:57 - 11:59] But that's the thing though.
[11:59 - 12:01] That was all on your shoulders.
[12:01 - 12:04] But how is that on me, bro?
[12:04 - 12:07] Because you signed the contract,
[12:07 - 12:10] which we knew we were instantly going to be rich
[12:10 - 12:12] once you dropped that album.
[12:12 - 12:15] And without you dropping that album,
[12:15 - 12:16] we lost houses.
[12:16 - 12:17] We lost cars.
[12:17 - 12:19] We lost kids.
[12:19 - 12:20] No, that's not all.
[12:20 - 12:21] Like, bro.
[12:21 - 12:22] It was just a crazy time.
[12:22 - 12:24] You really screwed a lot of us.
[12:24 - 12:25] Stop the music, man.
[12:25 - 12:26] Stop the music, bro.
[12:26 - 12:27] All right?
[12:27 - 12:29] No more prostitutes.
[12:29 - 12:31] No more PCP.
[12:31 - 12:34] Dude, just shut up and listen for a minute.
[12:34 - 12:36] If you wanted to make money,
[12:36 - 12:40] why didn't you just go out and make music for yourself, bro?
[12:40 - 12:42] I'm going to say this one last time
[12:42 - 12:44] and then I am signing out and I am done.
[12:44 - 12:46] I am no one's punching bag.
[12:46 - 12:48] I am no one's puppet.
[12:48 - 12:51] I am my own person and I will not be controlled.
[12:51 - 12:53] And if you don't like that,
[12:53 - 12:56] well, then I'm not trying to be offensive when I say this,
[12:56 - 12:57] but screw you.
[12:57 - 12:59] I'm not anyone's puppet.
[12:59 - 13:01] And I'm not going to be controlled.
[13:01 - 13:03] Sorry to say that, man.
[13:03 - 13:05] And it's not even me being controlled.