2021-9-23 Seeking answers

[0:29 - 0:43] That's the way for the Cisnak to get up in here.
[0:43 - 0:45] I do too, talent.
[0:45 - 0:55] I truly do.
[0:55 - 1:01] So, Cisnak, come on up here, man.
[1:01 - 1:04] Don't think you're gonna pull any funny stuff on anybody
[1:04 - 1:09] because I do know how to check and see if it's right here.
[1:09 - 1:45] So, Cisnak, come on up.
[1:45 - 2:02] So, Cisnak, come on up.
[2:02 - 2:05] Keep in mind, I will be checking to see if it actually
[2:05 - 2:07] is you, Cisnak.
[2:07 - 2:11] So, I'll be informed.
[2:11 - 2:46] Come on up here, Cis.
[2:46 - 3:00] There's no way before you, man.
[3:00 - 3:05] Hopefully, I do get some answers because, like I said,
[3:05 - 3:11] in order for me to be able to move forward and to do better,
[3:11 - 3:15] like, you know, I need answers.
[3:15 - 3:18] That way, I know, you know, where to go.
[3:18 - 3:20] You know what I mean?
[3:20 - 3:25] Like, in order for me to be able to understand
[3:25 - 3:29] and to be able to move forward with my life entirely,
[3:29 - 3:32] I kind of need to understand how all this started
[3:32 - 3:37] so I can, you know, get it in my head, like,
[3:37 - 4:03] you know what I mean?
[4:03 - 4:04] Exactly.
[4:04 - 4:07] Like, what, I couldn't have said that any better.
[4:07 - 4:10] Like, that's actually very correct.
[4:10 - 4:14] Like, is that on choices?
[4:14 - 4:37] Nope.
[4:37 - 4:46] Sorry, guys, but nobody but Cisnak is getting up here.
[4:46 - 4:54] So, don't even bother trying.
[4:54 - 5:00] Unless it's somebody like, unless it's somebody like Saren
[5:00 - 5:03] or, you know, one of my mods that I know is a good dude,
[5:03 - 5:16] then, yeah, ain't nobody getting up here with Cisnak.
[5:16 - 5:18] And I do mean nobody.
[5:18 - 5:41] So don't even try.
[5:41 - 6:07] Yo, Ange, what up?
[6:07 - 6:20] I almost have tended to, wait, what?
[6:20 - 6:22] Hold up.
[6:22 - 6:27] Was Young Fox just up in here?
[6:27 - 6:35] Was Young Fox literally just backstage?
[6:35 - 6:40] Bro, I swear to God, I just seen Young Fox backstage.
[7:04 - 7:11] Dude, that, bro, he literally just freaking left.
[7:12 - 7:15] Like, he left as fast as he came in.
[7:15 - 7:18] I didn't even get the chance to get him on here.
[7:18 - 7:25] Like, he bounced.
[7:25 - 7:36] Dude, what?
[7:36 - 7:38] Even though it's been a long time, Fox, man,
[7:38 - 7:39] I hope you're doing good,
[7:39 - 7:46] and I hope you're doing well for yourself, man.
[7:46 - 7:51] Young Fox is a former music artist that I used to work with
[7:52 - 8:28] back when me and Bratley had bloodshot records.
[8:28 - 8:32] He was on the, he was actually on the shot of blood cipher
[8:32 - 8:37] with me and Bratley and Bratley's cousin.
[9:12 - 9:14] Yeah, that was the past of Marty.
[9:14 - 9:19] That's, you know, that was a long time ago, actually, shit.
[9:22 - 9:26] Like I said, I don't know qualms or beef with anybody, you know?
[9:26 - 9:38] I just want to be able to move on with my life.
[9:38 - 9:40] Sorry, Cisnak.
[9:40 - 9:45] Here's the link.
[9:45 - 9:46] Sorry, bro, my bad.
[9:49 - 9:52] I'm not Cisnak, my bad, dude.
[9:52 - 9:55] This time, put that it's actually you
[9:55 - 9:58] and not somebody else, okay?
[9:58 - 10:00] Like use your actual name so I know it's you
[10:00 - 10:03] and you don't confuse the living hell out of me.
[10:03 - 10:45] Like use your actual thing.
[10:45 - 10:47] All right, give me this a minute.
[10:47 - 11:02] I will go in and unblock you, man.
[11:02 - 11:03] See if I can do it this way.
[11:03 - 11:04] I don't know about the altar,
[11:04 - 11:08] but I'm gonna try.
[11:08 - 11:10] Not saying I'll be successful,
[11:10 - 11:18] but I am going to try.
[11:18 - 12:03] And hopefully it works.
[12:03 - 12:09] I want motivation, I want settings.
[12:09 - 12:11] Sit tight, Cisnak.
[12:11 - 12:29] I'll get you taken care of, dude.
[12:29 - 12:57] Dude, holy.
[12:57 - 13:05] Dude, I don't see you in here.
[13:05 - 13:21] I'm literally looking and I don't see you in the band group.
[13:21 - 13:26] All I see is mostly Christ the 30-year-old boomers stuff.
[13:39 - 13:42] Yo, hold on, we got Cisnak up in here, guys.
[13:42 - 13:47] Hold on, I'm gonna ban that guy.
[13:48 - 13:55] Make sure it's actually him.
[13:55 - 13:56] What's up, Sarex?
[13:56 - 13:57] Hey, how you doing, man?
[13:57 - 13:59] What's good?
[13:59 - 14:01] Nothing, so I think you got some questions
[14:01 - 14:03] that you need answers to.
[14:04 - 14:07] Yeah, and honestly, the main one, dude,
[14:07 - 14:11] is just how is it that, well, one,
[14:11 - 14:14] how is it that you guys found me?
[14:14 - 14:19] And two and three are why is it that y'all did
[14:19 - 14:22] what you did to me and what made you guys
[14:22 - 14:24] want to do that ultimately?
[14:25 - 14:28] Courtney paid us all to do it.
[14:28 - 14:30] Courtney paid us all to do it.
[14:30 - 14:32] Like, who paid you to do it?
[14:32 - 14:35] Courtney, she gave me five grand to do it.
[14:36 - 14:38] And she gave all the rest of the Bender Boys
[14:38 - 14:40] five grand to each.
[14:40 - 14:41] Cisnak was the bro.
[14:41 - 14:45] You and I both know that and I'm not holding
[14:45 - 14:46] anything over your head.
[14:46 - 14:50] I'm not hating on you, but you and I both know
[14:50 - 14:53] that I know you all know that I can tell
[14:53 - 14:54] when you're lying through your teeth
[14:54 - 14:58] and right now you're not being straight up with me.
[14:58 - 14:59] What was the real reason?
[14:59 - 15:01] And don't sit there and say it's only a page.
[15:01 - 15:04] I want an honest answer, no bullshit.
[15:04 - 15:07] How we found you?
[15:07 - 15:11] I'm pretty sure it was through Blue
[15:12 - 15:16] when he brought you up without the whole candle smithing.
[15:16 - 15:20] And then we found out you were a rapper.
[15:20 - 15:26] So then Max and CPN and the Juggernaut,
[15:27 - 15:29] he wanted to get you signed.
[15:30 - 15:35] And so Max had me and George.
[15:38 - 15:39] And I don't remember who else.
[15:39 - 15:44] A couple of us hooked up with you
[15:44 - 15:47] so that we could let you know
[15:47 - 15:50] that Max was a good guy and you can record
[15:50 - 15:56] your weirdo and Mars album or whatever it was, right?
[15:56 - 15:58] Yeah, but what I want to know.
[15:58 - 16:01] And then, oh yeah, because at that time too,
[16:02 - 16:06] Marty was making big money off of your,
[16:06 - 16:09] the glory holes off of the merchandise off of you.
[16:10 - 16:13] Which I still don't see how the hell he could have even won.
[16:13 - 16:15] I mean, I didn't see how he could have done it.
[16:15 - 16:18] I just don't understand why, quite frankly.
[16:19 - 16:22] I would not care to know Marty, just saying.
[16:22 - 16:27] Max and CPN saw the money that Marty
[16:27 - 16:30] was making off of you on merchandise alone.
[16:31 - 16:34] So that's when Max wanted to get you signed
[16:34 - 16:36] to Juggernaut, he records.
[16:37 - 16:40] How does start hooking up with you?
[16:42 - 16:44] But then why wasn't that, like ultimately,
[16:44 - 16:47] why wasn't that you guys pulled that fake contract?
[16:48 - 16:50] Well, it was a fake.
[16:50 - 16:52] That was a real contract.
[16:52 - 16:55] And the Bender Boys, the Bender Boys
[16:55 - 16:59] saw how much money they could make off of you.
[16:59 - 17:04] And that's why they stole you from Juggernaut, he records.
[17:04 - 17:12] And then I developed a really bad PCP habit.
[17:13 - 17:16] And that's when Marty started offering me money
[17:16 - 17:19] to sell your merchandise.
[17:19 - 17:23] So I was making a shitload of money off of Marty
[17:23 - 17:27] and he was buying me a lot of PCP to sell your merchandise.
[17:28 - 17:30] And then you turned on us.
[17:30 - 17:31] You just became unmanageable.
[17:32 - 17:37] Well, to be fair, dude, I was, man.
[17:37 - 17:40] I was dealing with a lot of pressure
[17:40 - 17:43] between being trolled, being attacked
[17:43 - 17:45] and this and that and the other.
[17:45 - 17:50] It got a lot to, you know, it got overwhelming a lot.
[17:50 - 17:52] And like I said, I hold, you know,
[17:52 - 17:55] I harbor no hatred towards you or anyone.
[17:55 - 17:56] You know, like I said, I came on here
[17:56 - 17:59] just to, you know, to basically get answers
[17:59 - 18:04] and be like, yo, like I want to put all this to rest
[18:04 - 18:07] so that I can actually move on with my life
[18:07 - 18:09] so that I actually know, you know,
[18:09 - 18:11] what way, you know, I can take things.
[18:11 - 18:14] And now that I got those answers, dude,
[18:14 - 18:17] I do appreciate it, but ultimately though.
[18:17 - 18:20] How are we even being brought up right now
[18:20 - 18:22] is what I'm curious about.
[18:22 - 18:25] Because of the fact that, you know,
[18:25 - 18:29] I was just genuinely like, you know, looking for answers
[18:29 - 18:31] because I was actually talking about it
[18:31 - 18:33] with a friend of mine.
[18:33 - 18:35] And they were wondering the same thing,
[18:35 - 18:38] like how did any of this even start?
[18:38 - 18:42] Like what started all this stuff with, you know,
[18:42 - 18:43] the trolling and stuff.
[18:43 - 18:46] And then, you know, I had made that it started with you.
[18:46 - 18:49] Well, it initially first started with Marty
[18:49 - 18:52] before you guys, like it started with Marty
[18:52 - 18:57] before you guys, he fell off the map after a while.
[18:57 - 18:59] And then, you know, somehow or other,
[18:59 - 19:01] I guess Jamie found me or whatever.
[19:01 - 19:05] And I kind of explained like all of that stuff.
[19:05 - 19:08] And they were like, you know, like you should seriously,
[19:08 - 19:10] you know, try to get some answers
[19:10 - 19:14] and, you know, see what you can find out, you know.
[19:14 - 19:16] And, you know, that way, you know,
[19:16 - 19:21] things can finally, you know, progress forward.
[19:21 - 19:24] And, you know, a good way.
[19:24 - 19:28] And honestly, dude, I do appreciate you coming up here
[19:28 - 19:31] and, you know, explaining everything.
[19:31 - 19:34] And now that I know the real truth,
[19:34 - 19:38] Marty, you got some answering to do, man.
[19:38 - 19:39] It wasn't even Marty.
[19:39 - 19:42] It was, it was all the juggernaut.
[19:42 - 19:43] They were the ones.
[19:43 - 19:46] No, I was talking about Marty with like the whole,
[19:46 - 19:48] you know, glory, whole thing and all that,
[19:48 - 19:49] like all that stuff.
[19:50 - 19:54] Yeah, like, but Marty was making tons of money
[19:55 - 19:58] from what I recall, you still owe me some money
[19:58 - 20:00] from that merchandise.
[20:00 - 20:01] That's...
[20:01 - 20:02] But I'd let that go.
[20:02 - 20:04] I realized I'm never going to get that money.
[20:04 - 20:05] So I'd let that go.
[20:05 - 20:07] Well, what I want to know though,
[20:07 - 20:11] is that actually is a very good point,
[20:11 - 20:15] but something I want to know is how is it that I owe you money
[20:15 - 20:17] when I had no idea about the stuff?
[20:17 - 20:20] I didn't know about that until y'all told me.
[20:20 - 20:22] I was unaware.
[20:22 - 20:27] I didn't know, but when my last check bounced,
[20:28 - 20:33] I was told to bring it up with you.
[20:33 - 20:36] Dude, I'll be honest with you, dude.
[20:36 - 20:39] And this is me being a hundred straight up with you, man.
[20:39 - 20:43] I had no idea about anything that Marty was doing
[20:43 - 20:46] at this time until y'all told me.
[20:46 - 20:49] When y'all told me, I straight flipped on him.
[20:49 - 20:52] I was like, what the fuck?
[20:52 - 20:57] Like, what's the, like, why did you, you know, do this?
[20:57 - 21:01] Like, what was the fucking point?
[21:01 - 21:03] Like, I had no idea about...
[21:03 - 21:05] It was all about money, sir.
[21:06 - 21:08] We all wanted that mighty dollar.
[21:09 - 21:11] Right, and I get that, and I understand that.
[21:11 - 21:12] You're a cash cow.
[21:12 - 21:15] Do you not understand that?
[21:15 - 21:19] No, I guess so, but I don't understand, like, why,
[21:19 - 21:21] why, why did they do that?
[21:21 - 21:24] Whoever gets control of you is rich,
[21:24 - 21:26] but I got the rich.
[21:26 - 21:27] But that's the thing though, man.
[21:27 - 21:30] That's what people don't really understand
[21:30 - 21:34] is that I don't want to be controlled.
[21:34 - 21:36] I want to be my own person,
[21:36 - 21:40] without people coming in and doing this and doing that
[21:40 - 21:43] and saying this and saying, like, oh, you can do this,
[21:43 - 21:45] but oh, you can't do that.
[21:45 - 21:47] Like, that's not me, you know?
[21:47 - 21:50] When I first came onto the music scene, dude,
[21:50 - 21:53] I had no intention of being controlled.
[21:53 - 21:56] I just wanted to be able to do my music,
[21:56 - 21:59] my own way, all my own, without any,
[21:59 - 22:01] you know, without any bullshit,
[22:01 - 22:03] without anybody trying to, you know,
[22:03 - 22:07] control what I do and don't do and make me look stupid.
[22:07 - 22:09] Like, I'm not about that crap, dude.
[22:09 - 22:11] Like, that's not what I'm about, I think.
[22:11 - 22:16] And I honestly feel like a lot of people,
[22:16 - 22:18] you know, they don't want that.
[22:18 - 22:19] Like, they want to control me,
[22:19 - 22:21] but I'm here to tell you right now,
[22:21 - 22:24] I'm not going to be controlled.
[22:24 - 22:26] I refuse to be controlled.
[22:26 - 22:30] That's the thing is, that's why it went to where it did.
[22:30 - 22:31] It went to where it did,
[22:31 - 22:35] because we realized if we can't control you
[22:35 - 22:38] and we can't be making that money off of you,
[22:38 - 22:40] then nobody will.
[22:40 - 22:45] And we were, we vowed to destroy you after that.
[22:45 - 22:48] We made sure that we were going to destroy you
[22:48 - 22:51] because nobody was going to make money off of you
[22:51 - 22:54] if we couldn't make that money off of you.
[22:54 - 22:56] Well, I had to say, dude,
[22:56 - 22:59] and I'm not saying this to be an asshole.
[22:59 - 23:01] I'm just stating straight facts.
[23:01 - 23:02] You kind of failed at that.
[23:04 - 23:06] You kind of failed at what you did.
[23:06 - 23:08] Where's your career at right now?
[23:08 - 23:08] That's all shit.
[23:08 - 23:10] I'm just stating facts, bro.
[23:10 - 23:12] Where's your career at right now?
[23:13 - 23:16] Honestly, dude, it's going in a very good direction
[23:16 - 23:17] right now for me.
[23:17 - 23:18] It might not be music,
[23:18 - 23:21] but I do have other shit that I am doing
[23:21 - 23:25] that is actually going in a very good direction for me.
[23:25 - 23:28] And I'm here to tell you right now,
[23:28 - 23:30] you're not going to get away in the way of that
[23:30 - 23:32] and neither is anyone else.
[23:32 - 23:34] I'm not going to be controlled.
[23:34 - 23:36] I am my own person.
[23:36 - 23:39] And if you don't like that, then that's your problem.
[23:39 - 23:43] I can't control the way you feel or how you react,
[23:43 - 23:44] but I can't control.
[23:44 - 23:46] You know what you did to us?
[23:46 - 23:48] You signed a contract with us.
[23:48 - 23:49] But that's the thing.
[23:49 - 23:51] And after you signed the contract with us,
[23:51 - 23:56] we went ahead and bought houses and stuff,
[23:56 - 23:59] relying on that money that was going to come in from you.
[23:59 - 24:04] Then why is it that when I took one look at that contract,
[24:04 - 24:07] I looked at the contract after I had signed it
[24:07 - 24:10] and bro, that contract was fake.
[24:10 - 24:12] So don't even, don't even play that contract.
[24:12 - 24:13] How was it fake?
[24:13 - 24:14] Tell me how it was fake.
[24:14 - 24:18] Bro, you were offering me fucking money
[24:18 - 24:21] that no fucking label
[24:21 - 24:23] when the right fucking line would do.
[24:23 - 24:25] Like bro, I'm not stupid.
[24:25 - 24:26] Because it's you.
[24:26 - 24:30] Like you are a musical fucking genius.
[24:30 - 24:34] And I get that, but you need to understand it.
[24:34 - 24:40] When it comes down to it, I never wanted to be controlled.
[24:40 - 24:43] And when I tried to tell y'all that,
[24:43 - 24:45] you guys felt like you had to do this
[24:45 - 24:47] and do that to destroy anyone.
[24:47 - 24:51] You know, we couldn't party ways on good terms.
[24:51 - 24:51] If y'all-
[24:51 - 24:52] You remember what happened?
[24:52 - 24:54] We went out and bought houses.
[24:54 - 24:56] We went and bought cars.
[24:56 - 24:58] We went and had pools put in our backyard.
[24:58 - 24:59] And-
[24:59 - 25:03] Because that actually gonna record an album for us.
[25:03 - 25:05] But why should that matter to me?
[25:05 - 25:06] That's on-
[25:06 - 25:09] Because you backed out on the contract and you didn't-
[25:09 - 25:10] But why-
[25:10 - 25:11] We lost all that money.
[25:11 - 25:12] And we have to do this.
[25:12 - 25:13] Let me ask you-
[25:13 - 25:15] We're fitting down houses, cars, repos.
[25:15 - 25:16] Let me ask you this.
[25:16 - 25:18] All right, let me ask you this.
[25:18 - 25:22] Why should what you guys do with your lives
[25:22 - 25:25] affect what I do?
[25:25 - 25:30] Because all of that relied on your signature on that contract.
[25:33 - 25:36] All of that relied on you.
[25:36 - 25:37] But that's the thing though.
[25:37 - 25:40] That was all on your shoulders.
[25:40 - 25:43] But how is that on me, bro?
[25:43 - 25:43] Like-
[25:43 - 25:45] Because we signed the contract,
[25:45 - 25:48] which we knew we were instantly gonna be rich
[25:48 - 25:51] once you dropped that album.
[25:51 - 25:54] And without you dropping that album,
[25:54 - 25:57] we lost houses, we lost cars, we lost kids.
[25:57 - 25:58] Well, that's not a-
[25:58 - 25:59] Like, bro-
[25:59 - 26:00] But yeah, it was just a crazy time.
[26:00 - 26:02] You released a lot of us.
[26:02 - 26:03] A lot of us, man.
[26:03 - 26:04] A lot of us, bro.
[26:04 - 26:05] All right?
[26:05 - 26:06] And-
[26:06 - 26:10] No more prostitutes, no more peace and peace, man.
[26:10 - 26:12] But dude, just shout out to us for a minute.
[26:12 - 26:15] If you wanted to make money,
[26:15 - 26:17] why didn't you just go out and make music for yourself,
[26:17 - 26:18] bro?
[26:18 - 26:21] I'm gonna say this one last time that I am signing out
[26:21 - 26:22] and I am done.
[26:22 - 26:25] I am no one's punching bag.
[26:25 - 26:26] I am no one's puppet.
[26:26 - 26:29] I am my own person and I will not be controlled.
[26:29 - 26:31] And if you don't like that,
[26:31 - 26:33] well, then I'm not trying to be offensive
[26:33 - 26:35] when I say this, but screw you.
[26:35 - 26:37] I'm not anyone's puppet.
[26:37 - 26:39] And I'm not gonna be controlled.
[26:39 - 26:40] Sorry to say that, man.
[26:40 - 26:41] And it's not-
[26:41 - 26:42] And it's not-
[26:42 - 26:43] It wouldn't be-